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	<title>Comments on: Into The Wild: The False Being Within</title>
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		<title>By: NoobsRus21900</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way Chris died is not nearly as presient as how he lived. On his own terms and fully a life that enriched others and himself both mentally and spiritually. He taught us all that life should be fully lived as a gift from God. He did some amazing things in his life. I don&#039;t hink too many who were afraid of water could have canoed the Colorado River for example. Chris may or may not have been mentally ill. I have worked with many mentally ill people and I can&#039;t say based on the evidence at hand. Psychotic symptoms can be exactly the same as those produced with severe insomnia and starvation. However anyone who has spent time in the &quot;wild&quot; will acknowledge that a lapse in judgement at the wrong time can easily cost you your life. If you judge Chris too harshly on this basis you are only fooling yourself. I wish Chris were still here as he had a great deal still to offer the world. His presence, I am sure is missed by many. I think he probably smiles down on all of us and the &quot;tempest in a teapot&quot; controversy over his death with the his good kind nature and hopes we come away with more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way Chris died is not nearly as presient as how he lived. On his own terms and fully a life that enriched others and himself both mentally and spiritually. He taught us all that life should be fully lived as a gift from God. He did some amazing things in his life. I don&#8217;t hink too many who were afraid of water could have canoed the Colorado River for example. Chris may or may not have been mentally ill. I have worked with many mentally ill people and I can&#8217;t say based on the evidence at hand. Psychotic symptoms can be exactly the same as those produced with severe insomnia and starvation. However anyone who has spent time in the &#8220;wild&#8221; will acknowledge that a lapse in judgement at the wrong time can easily cost you your life. If you judge Chris too harshly on this basis you are only fooling yourself. I wish Chris were still here as he had a great deal still to offer the world. His presence, I am sure is missed by many. I think he probably smiles down on all of us and the &#8220;tempest in a teapot&#8221; controversy over his death with the his good kind nature and hopes we come away with more.</p>
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		<title>By: Into The Wild The False Being Within Far North Science &#124; Outdoor Ceiling Fans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Into The Wild The False Being Within Far North Science &#124; Outdoor Ceiling Fans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 07:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: missginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>missginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m behind the times apparently as I wasn&#039;t aware of McCandless&#039;s adventures until the movie came out in 2007, and just now finished reading the book &quot;Into the Wild.&quot; Funny considering I lived in Alaska a total of 30 years. The Alaskan wilderness inspired me to get a degree in Biology in the first place, and although I was offered a job at Scripps in LaJolla I returned to work as a Field Biologist in Alaska in April 1993. I could relate to his desire to be in Alaska&#039;s wild and experience life unimpeded by the race to make the most money. The funny thing is the only thing I heard from Alaskan&#039;s of which I was one, is about some nut who perished near Mt. McKinley on a suicide mission. 17 years later I had to cry..often while reading the book. And, I rarely cry. From what I read I understood him to be someone who valued life to the fullest extent. I&#039;ve been to all corners of Alaska&#039;s wild.  What a great loss his life was. Rarely do you come across people with such passion for adventure and love of life itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m behind the times apparently as I wasn&#8217;t aware of McCandless&#8217;s adventures until the movie came out in 2007, and just now finished reading the book &#8220;Into the Wild.&#8221; Funny considering I lived in Alaska a total of 30 years. The Alaskan wilderness inspired me to get a degree in Biology in the first place, and although I was offered a job at Scripps in LaJolla I returned to work as a Field Biologist in Alaska in April 1993. I could relate to his desire to be in Alaska&#8217;s wild and experience life unimpeded by the race to make the most money. The funny thing is the only thing I heard from Alaskan&#8217;s of which I was one, is about some nut who perished near Mt. McKinley on a suicide mission. 17 years later I had to cry..often while reading the book. And, I rarely cry. From what I read I understood him to be someone who valued life to the fullest extent. I&#8217;ve been to all corners of Alaska&#8217;s wild.  What a great loss his life was. Rarely do you come across people with such passion for adventure and love of life itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Into the Wild &#171; Milo &#38; The Year Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Into the Wild &#171; Milo &#38; The Year Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: warmax</title>
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		<dc:creator>warmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My review here:

http://maxdoesct.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My review here:</p>
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		<title>By: s8piral</title>
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		<dc:creator>s8piral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I agree that mental illness is a huge problem in the US and it is possible that Chris was mentally ill, this seems to circumvent the very real point of the book (for certain) and the movie.  I don&#039;t think that Chris is alone in his desire to externalize an internal conflict by trying to face it in a self-imposed isolation in &quot;the wilderness.&quot;  People have been doing this for eons and most indigenous cultures around the planet have had rites of passage that included facing their internal &#039;demons&#039; in isolation in order to become a more self-realized person--i.e. adult.  This desire alone does not make a person mentally ill.  

Furthermore, those of us who have NEVER even met this person have any right to try to judge or characterize him, all of this seems to be in the same ilk as those who fawn over celebrities, trying to determine what ailment or condition they are suffering from--please give it a rest.

It also seems that people are very quick to judge Chris, for all his blunders--WITHOUT ever looking at their own hubris and subsequent mistakes in the backcountry, which should be the real starting point of any discussion of this movie/book.  Every experienced backcountry person starts a greenhorn and every greenhorn makes stupid mistakes, AND hopefully lives to learn from it.  

Though I now live in New Zealand, I am originally from Oregon, and having lived along the Pacific Crest Trail for 8 years, worked in the backcountry (firefighting, hazardous fuel reduction, trail restoration, etc.), backpacked/tramped in the backcountry for several years now, have a fair amount of whitewater rafting experience over the years (including Grade 4+ and 5), spent a lot of time outdoors (including in the San Juan Islands, B.C., Cascade Mountains, Inside Passage, tropics in Australia and Fiji, Southern Alps of NZ, etc.), fully trained in CPR, First Aid and 2-way radio communication, etc.--Despite all of this, I have been washed down a river due to misjudging its shallow swiftness, been lost by myself (over the years) multiple times in the &#039;bush,&#039; and been unable to truly help a workmate having (first attack) anaphylactic shock from yellow jacket stings (she took a turn for the better before her airways shut, after spewing the Benadryl pills and after the helicopter was unable to find a place to land due the terrain).
--The point being, what happened to Chris can happen to anyone and has; whether he was mentally ill or not is beside the point--we all make mistakes (in the backcountry) and this should really be an opportunity to reflect on our own AND learn.



[On another note, I would like to ask people to stop thinking of Alaska as some benchmark for ruggedness or the &quot;Last Frontier.&quot;  The &#039;Frontier&#039; is a myth created by Anglo-Saxon men in their ignorance of the fact that every &#039;pioneer&#039; did not aimlessly launch themselves into the wilderness, they survived with the help of the indigenous peoples who lived there or explorers/trappers/whalers/sealers (if they were non-local-indigenous persons) who had learned from the indigenous peoples and then passed this on to the &#039;pioneers.&#039;  I think this myth is in part responsible why people (such as Chris) forego common sense and learning local knowledge of the particular backcountry they are visiting.]

Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I agree that mental illness is a huge problem in the US and it is possible that Chris was mentally ill, this seems to circumvent the very real point of the book (for certain) and the movie.  I don&#8217;t think that Chris is alone in his desire to externalize an internal conflict by trying to face it in a self-imposed isolation in &#8220;the wilderness.&#8221;  People have been doing this for eons and most indigenous cultures around the planet have had rites of passage that included facing their internal &#8216;demons&#8217; in isolation in order to become a more self-realized person&#8211;i.e. adult.  This desire alone does not make a person mentally ill.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, those of us who have NEVER even met this person have any right to try to judge or characterize him, all of this seems to be in the same ilk as those who fawn over celebrities, trying to determine what ailment or condition they are suffering from&#8211;please give it a rest.</p>
<p>It also seems that people are very quick to judge Chris, for all his blunders&#8211;WITHOUT ever looking at their own hubris and subsequent mistakes in the backcountry, which should be the real starting point of any discussion of this movie/book.  Every experienced backcountry person starts a greenhorn and every greenhorn makes stupid mistakes, AND hopefully lives to learn from it.  </p>
<p>Though I now live in New Zealand, I am originally from Oregon, and having lived along the Pacific Crest Trail for 8 years, worked in the backcountry (firefighting, hazardous fuel reduction, trail restoration, etc.), backpacked/tramped in the backcountry for several years now, have a fair amount of whitewater rafting experience over the years (including Grade 4+ and 5), spent a lot of time outdoors (including in the San Juan Islands, B.C., Cascade Mountains, Inside Passage, tropics in Australia and Fiji, Southern Alps of NZ, etc.), fully trained in CPR, First Aid and 2-way radio communication, etc.&#8211;Despite all of this, I have been washed down a river due to misjudging its shallow swiftness, been lost by myself (over the years) multiple times in the &#8216;bush,&#8217; and been unable to truly help a workmate having (first attack) anaphylactic shock from yellow jacket stings (she took a turn for the better before her airways shut, after spewing the Benadryl pills and after the helicopter was unable to find a place to land due the terrain).<br />
&#8211;The point being, what happened to Chris can happen to anyone and has; whether he was mentally ill or not is beside the point&#8211;we all make mistakes (in the backcountry) and this should really be an opportunity to reflect on our own AND learn.</p>
<p>[On another note, I would like to ask people to stop thinking of Alaska as some benchmark for ruggedness or the "Last Frontier."  The 'Frontier' is a myth created by Anglo-Saxon men in their ignorance of the fact that every 'pioneer' did not aimlessly launch themselves into the wilderness, they survived with the help of the indigenous peoples who lived there or explorers/trappers/whalers/sealers (if they were non-local-indigenous persons) who had learned from the indigenous peoples and then passed this on to the 'pioneers.'  I think this myth is in part responsible why people (such as Chris) forego common sense and learning local knowledge of the particular backcountry they are visiting.]</p>
<p>Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: greenhornet</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as some people here and elsewhere do not understand why some people &quot;worship this guy&quot;, i conversely do not understand why there is a need to vilify Chris McCandless. What he did was admittedly foolhardy and impetuous, but I do not think it&#039;s right and even necessary to dismiss it as stupid and selfish (not my words, mind you).

  It really depresses me, this &quot;in-the-know&quot; elitism and etnocentrism Alaskans have about their &quot;hardiness&quot; as a people. This need to brag about how they wouldn&#039;t do anything so stupid as venturing into the wilderness unprepared. I dont think McCandless wanted to go to uncharted (to him) territory with safety blankets such as maps and compasses. He wasnt a hunter or explorer, no. He knew there were no blank spots anywhere anymore. In his mind, the only way the experience would be real, is if he approached it the way his heroes might have approached it decades back.

   He wanted to be one with the harsh, unforgiving elements in order to search for himself. Much has been said about how stupid he was not to have the sense to bring a map, or he would have found a tram a fourth of a mile from where he was. But how would that have squared with what he was doing? It would have spoiled his wilderness experience knowing there was an escape valve of a tram within reach. He wanted to be untethered, unreachable. He wanted to do it on his own terms and rules. Was he right? From our own standpoint, no. Because he died. But that&#039;s a very shallow worldview. I think Chris found what he was looking for. And he was very fortunate to have done so. How many of us can say that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as some people here and elsewhere do not understand why some people &#8220;worship this guy&#8221;, i conversely do not understand why there is a need to vilify Chris McCandless. What he did was admittedly foolhardy and impetuous, but I do not think it&#8217;s right and even necessary to dismiss it as stupid and selfish (not my words, mind you).</p>
<p>  It really depresses me, this &#8220;in-the-know&#8221; elitism and etnocentrism Alaskans have about their &#8220;hardiness&#8221; as a people. This need to brag about how they wouldn&#8217;t do anything so stupid as venturing into the wilderness unprepared. I dont think McCandless wanted to go to uncharted (to him) territory with safety blankets such as maps and compasses. He wasnt a hunter or explorer, no. He knew there were no blank spots anywhere anymore. In his mind, the only way the experience would be real, is if he approached it the way his heroes might have approached it decades back.</p>
<p>   He wanted to be one with the harsh, unforgiving elements in order to search for himself. Much has been said about how stupid he was not to have the sense to bring a map, or he would have found a tram a fourth of a mile from where he was. But how would that have squared with what he was doing? It would have spoiled his wilderness experience knowing there was an escape valve of a tram within reach. He wanted to be untethered, unreachable. He wanted to do it on his own terms and rules. Was he right? From our own standpoint, no. Because he died. But that&#8217;s a very shallow worldview. I think Chris found what he was looking for. And he was very fortunate to have done so. How many of us can say that?</p>
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		<title>By: Therapy New York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therapy New York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the movie about Chris McCandless called “In the Wild” and it was a very unbelievable story. It was a very good book and I need to check out the book. I don’t really understand the choices that  McCandless made on his journey to Alaska. I think it’s kind of ironic that he died but I guess he didn’t always make wise decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the movie about Chris McCandless called “In the Wild” and it was a very unbelievable story. It was a very good book and I need to check out the book. I don’t really understand the choices that  McCandless made on his journey to Alaska. I think it’s kind of ironic that he died but I guess he didn’t always make wise decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: too wet to pee &#124; kevincasper.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>too wet to pee &#124; kevincasper.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t understand those who worship this guy. he was a sick kid (i read one excellent article that made a very compelling case that he was schizophrenic) who showed little respect for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hesi Station &#187; into the wild again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hesi Station &#187; into the wild again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here is the article. Conclusion? Chris became schizophrenic in his 20s, and died because his mental conditioned worsened and he had nobody around to help him out. and remind him to eat. [...]</description>
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